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Joined: Feb 19, 2004 Posts: 1344 Location: Nelson area
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:40 am
I have no real issues with the media per se. I wish they (reporters) had the testicular fortitude to stand up to their editors and their papers (non-biased) prohibitions flavoured reporting. This is more likely seen in the larger metropolitan papers than small local rags (depending who they are affiliated with).
I am not anti paper, but do not believe that realistically in this environment the media will be balanced in this issue.
Newsbud do you see Afro-Americans being called "Niggers" in the paper?
Poor people being called "White trash" if not, why then is the media allowed to use the term "Pot head" "Dope head" in print? Is this balanced reporting - don't think so.
I would not attack reporters in doing the best they can, but the policy is normally written at the "owners" level and sometimes at the editorial level.
If you are in the media environment have you sat down with your editor and talked about running a (non-biased) piece on cannabis and the real (economical/humantarian) effects on society? Let me know how you get on. Hell I'll even offer myself as an interviewee on my efforts in (non-political) based cannabis activism.
Steven _________________ Regulation will set cannabis free
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Or even if a reporter has a phobia about cannabis , let rip on Hemp..
Go find the crowd who did a presentation on how HEMP could save the Foxton, Flaxmere type areas , How current big industries in those areas were doomed and how HEMP would not only save the day but increase wealth ..
And how NZ now imports HEMP based products and its on the increase ..
How NZ developed HEMP conversion technology developed at Massey / Waikato Uni is now being used overseas .
How HEMP be it paper , fiber building products or one of the hundreds of uses would have saved thousands of jobs .
And how by skilled manipulation the HEMP industry potential has been shut down by manipulation of the politicians..
A bloody easy story to research , but bet ya we don't see anyone run with it or anything like it..
At least there are some media we can all appreciate.
Hey while the media will always try and be 'balanced' for and against cannabis issue, remember all publicity is good publicity. They may not be our proper friend but they are the only friend we've got, without them we will not be heard. We just haf to overstand how they operate so as not to be made out too doppey like... _________________ Tick the Leaf - www.alcp.org.nz
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Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:11 pm
That looked amazingly balanced, a choco fish for ch9. I looked and didn't see Danielle on the film before she did the anti-marijuana spokesperson thang. She was very fluent, I wonder what she is studying.
Channel 9 usually gives decent coverage, I have found. It's a shame nobody watches it.
I was in the law library reading up when I saw (heard) the protest go past. Very strong and loud, but that didn't stop everyone around having a good laugh.
I guess there are some people you'll never get through to.
I have no real issues with the media per say. I wish they (reporters) had the testicular fortitude to stand up to their editors and their papers (non-biassed) prohibitions flavoured reporting. This is more likely seen in the larger metropolitan papers than small local rags (depending who they are affiliated with).
I am not anti paper, but do not believe that realistically in this environment the media will be balanced in this issue.
Newsbud do you see Afro-Americans being called "Niggers" in the paper?
Poor people being called "White trash" if not, why then is the media allowed to use the term "Pot head" "Dope head" in print? Is this balanced reporting - don't think so.
I would not attack reporters in doing the best they can, but the policy is normally written at the "owners" level and sometimes at the editorial level.
If you are in the media environment have you sat down with your editor and talked about running a (non-biassed) piece on cannabis and the real (economical/humantarian) effects on society? Let me know how you get on. Hell I'll even offer myself as an interviewee on my efforts in (non-political) based cannabis activism.
steveoh,
I think you're still missing the point.
You are complaining about the testicular fortitude of reporters for not standing up against their editor's and newspaper's (their boss and employer!) "prohibition flavoured reporting" but when was the last time a cannabis law reformer submitted an article/opinion piece to a newspaper for an editor to consider?
I wrote one last October in response to an opinion piece by Ross Bell, which I then submitted to the ODT. It didn't get printed but that doesn't mean that they are necessarily anti-cannabis law reform, it just means that they chose not to use my article. Maybe if I sent them another opinion piece then they might print that. Or another one and so on until they do publish one.
Many of the articles on the opinion pages are submitted to the newspapers.
As I pointed out before, many newspaper editors probably think that they are being unbiased and balanced by taking a position between what they see as the two extremes - legalisation and prohibition.
It's the responsibility of cannabis users to show them that they are wrong to take that position by demonstrating that cannabis prohibition is the cause of the problem and that legalisation & regulation is the solution (or at the very least stop the madness of arresting and punishing cannabis users).
After all, why should reporters and editors be expected to do something that many cannabis users are not prepared to do ie speak out?
IMO cannabis users as a whole are unreasonable in that we just expect the media to take a pro-cannabis line and un-reason-able in that we don't take the time to reason with the editors, we tend to respond with indignation (ie anger).
As for the "dope" name-calling issue, what can you do about it?
IMO by taking offence, you just fall into the trap.
If one is proud to be "dopey" then it loses its effect as an insult.
Personally I don't like the term either but I don't see how taking offence and whinging is going to stop people calling us "dopes", "dopey" etc.
So I suggest toughening up (a thick skin is handy in the CLR business) and some testicular fortitude as possible solutions to the dope/pot head name-calling problem.
hometoad wrote:
potshots wrote:
I couldn't help but notice that one of the photos used in the "Narks on campus" coverage was of protesters with a banner quoting Inspector Campbell saying "We have more important things to do" than deal with the 4:20s. It was certainly a poignant image in context of the photo montage. Was its presence just a coincidence?
Was its presence just a coincidence? thats a damn good question potshots. I've just had a look at the offending news paper clip and low-and-behold it is there and I recall reading the ODT article that the Inspector Campbell statement was in.
I like to think that I'm fairly onto it but having said that the coincidence point hadn't even occurred to me and I do remember having read the article that the inspectors comment was in.
Having said that I wonder how may others (like myself) that this point was lost on?
Must admit that I didn't notice the first time I looked at the photo, it was only later that I noticed it consciously (maybe it might have a subconscious effect).
The thing is that the photo was a montage of different images and someone during the editorial process made the decision to use that particular image of the protestors holding the "Inspector Campbell says...." banner in that particular context.
An "attack on civil rights" has prompted angry Otago University students to protest today in response to the arrest of their outspoken student leaders.
Three students, associated with the legalise cannabis movement, were arrested on campus last month for charges ranging from possession of cannabis, possession of utensils, obstructing police and resisting arrest. Among the three men arrested was Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis party's Dunedin North candidate Julian Crawford and Otago Normal leader Abe Grey. The students had been manning a stall promoting the legalisation of cannabis.
Protest organiser Corey Anderson said the arrest and subsequent trespass of the leaders was a blatant attack on civil liberties and students needed to take a stand. "It is also an attempt by the police to intimidate and quash a political movement by arresting its leaders and those in association with them."
The three men were trespassed from selected areas of the university, in what organisers say was an attempt to prevent them from engaging in political speech. The students hope the protest will bring an end to police "harassment" and a re-evaluation of the police presence on the campus. "We think its unacceptable that people should be arrested for political activity," said Mr Anderson.
Organisers are expecting anywhere from 50 to 200 protesters, depending on the weather. "There is a lot of sympathy for the issue even if the bad weather keeps people indoors."
Senior Sergeant Bruce Ross said police were not were not concerned about the protest. "Let the silly buggers protest."
Police came under fire from students and Green MP Metiria Turei over the incident for using excessive force when arresting the men. There was also anger from students over the use of undercover officers on the campus.
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silly people, they were in possession of an illegal drug so of course they would get arrested, so why protest?? they broke the law no matter what way you look at it
#1 Posted by clara 10:51 AM | Friday , 01 August 2008
Yet another case of protesting for the sake of protesting. These potheads broke the law by 'sparking up' in a public area - not protesting. These morons to get back to earth and stop wasting everyones time.
#2 Posted by Over-it 11:10 AM | Friday , 01 August 2008
This nonsense about cannabis has been going on for over 35 years. This is, as always, a lunatic student fanatical fringe finding any excuse to protest. Nothing new there, they will grow up one day. Legalising cannabis is not political, it is a legal issue. I do not agree with the cannabis law but if you flout it you run the risk of consequences. Much like we may not agree with some traffic laws but if we flout them we run a risk.
Let them protest, get wet and catch a cold. It'll give them an excuse to get drunk later. Oh, wait! They have never needed an excuse to do that either.
#3 Posted by Arthur 11:23 AM | Friday , 01 August 2008
This just highlights how arrogant the student "leaders" in our Universities are.
I studied at Otago only 3 years ago and I did not feel as if the student "leaders" came close to representing the mainstream views of students. The fact that we were forced to pay student association fees just so that these blatantly left leaning wanna-be politicians could push their views of a socialist utopia in our face was an invasion of my "civil liberties" - why should I have to pay to support their agendas which I or the larger student populace don't agree with?
These people think they are so smart with their knowledge of civil rights and civil liberties in an academic context but all they do is use it as an excuse to flaut current drug prohibition laws - if you're so free of guilt then why were you in possession of a prohibited substance?
Get out of uni you losers and get into the real world.
#4 Posted by James 11:26 AM | Friday , 01 August 2008
I love it when they call smoking cannabis a protest. It is illegal and this "protest" is nothing more than these drop kicks wanting to get high and do little more with themselves. They go to uni to learn and supposedly earn degrees which they can use to further themselves not get 3-4 years of trying to get away with using drugs.
They are getting interest free loans and probably even student allowances to buy these drugs. I wish the government would fund me in some worthless illegal activites.
These "protesters" using the guise of a student protest or political movement need to get a life - if you want to run illegal activities you run the risk of getting arrested. Running and complaining to the media is like running home and crying to mummy.
#5 Posted by Ben 11:43 AM | Friday , 01 August 2008
I have an opinion piece being published in Critic the week after next aiming to change people's minds about the sheep-like "follow the law or fuck off" viewpoint. But it seems some people are way too set in their "the law is 100% right" ways that they won't even consider the issue :/. Quite a shame, really.
This is a good time to reflect on the pitifully insecure streak that runs thick through New Zealand society. Writing from Europe, I am constantly amazed by how willing people are to consider alternative political systems or ideologies, compared to people back home, who seem to react with panic whenever met with anything new.
We are seriously a backwards people. _________________ This is our year - TICK THE LEAF: www.alcp.org.nz
Joined: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 2291 Location: Queensland
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:02 pm
Queensland police are now using dogs in Byron the hippiest place in Australia to detect ANY KIND of drug.
Festivals are now classed as drug free, no matter what.
The real drug war is only just starting.
Now is the time that people need to gather together in mass groups.
It's you vs the system if you choose to smoke in small groups.
Its a dangerous way to go unless you've got nothing to lose.
People are scared of the police, people run for the hills when the system cracks down on them. Its the expected result, because of the wage-terror-on-cannabis-war.
Cannabis is not a plant, cannabis is a drug, cannabis is a fools drug, cannabis smokers are just dopeheads, cannabis smokers are just kidding themselves,
OHHHHH MAN< IM SO SICK OF IT.
Why can't we all just get along, instead of looking after dickhead laws.
Because we live in a fucked world, thats why.
Sometimes, I feel like admitting defeat, but then the next time I blaze up, I'm sitting there thinking 'why am I admitting defeat when I'm inspiring people day and night by PUBLICLY lighting up and bringing it out in the open?".
It just needs to be bought out in the open, perhaps we should start harrassing the police in large numbers, walking up to them at festivals, publicly just going on at them like the law does at us.
The police are no different to the cannabis users, they just drink instead of smoke.
I'm tired of this double standard society. _________________ Hardcore 4 Cannabis since 2004
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Yeah man let's mob the Police. I bet that'll make them act reasonably towards us, and use their discretion at every available opportunity.
Next time you're out with some friends and you see some cops, just walk up and surround them. Bonus points if you ask them redundant questions like "why r the laws so stupid?"
In fact, why not just walk into the Police station and light up? That'll give them the fucken' message man. It's unacceptable what they're doing.
Go for it bro.
Get over the misplaced anger... The cops aren't the problem. They take their pay home whether they're bashing up rapists in the cells or conducting investigations into alleged breaches of the Misuse of Drugs Act. Guess which one they'd rather be doing.
I know you've been fucked by the law before, and are understandably bitter about it. But I feel it needs to be said that when you start talking about deliberately harassing the Police, you need to take a good look at your motives and state of mind.
Summary: start showing some love to the cops and you may get some back. At least there's a better chance than if you decide to start harassing them for taking a job that is mostly for the public good.
Joined: Nov 16, 2005 Posts: 437 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:40 pm
bubblebobble wrote:
Yeah man let's mob the Police. I bet that'll make them act reasonably towards us, and use their discretion at every available opportunity.
Next time you're out with some friends and you see some cops, just walk up and surround them. Bonus points if you ask them redundant questions like "why r the laws so stupid?"
In fact, why not just walk into the Police station and light up? That'll give them the fucken' message man. It's unacceptable what they're doing.
Go for it bro.
Get over the misplaced anger... The cops aren't the problem. They take their pay home whether they're bashing up rapists in the cells or conducting investigations into alleged breaches of the Misuse of Drugs Act. Guess which one they'd rather be doing.
I know you've been fucked by the law before, and are understandably bitter about it. But I feel it needs to be said that when you start talking about deliberately harassing the Police, you need to take a good look at your motives and state of mind.
Summary: start showing some love to the cops and you may get some back. At least there's a better chance than if you decide to start harassing them for taking a job that is mostly for the public good.
You are writing shit bubblebobble. For a start people have gone to the Dunedin police station several times and smoked pot and got away with it.
The police are responsible for the drug laws because they are generally what they ask for. The police have never shown any interest in losing the powers that the misuse of drugs act gives them. I have never heard any non-retired policeman express publicly any concern about cannabis laws (except to hint they might accept instant fines). And don't give me that shit about them only doing their job. What is their job? You have just given an example of how they use their discretion about what they choose to do.
Now as for prosecuters and judges - they're worse, they're below contempt.
Resistance to their persecutions does get favourable results and is the only direct challenge we can make against these putrid laws.
Good on those students who protested to draw attention to cannabis law reform. It is fantastic to see students protesting about something other than just student fee's even if it was only a small handful. Gratitude to those who stood up for common sense.
In other parts of the world the student body is often very politically aware and organised such that they can in fact effect much change, or at least apply much pressure to toward that aim. Here in NZ, for the most part, it does seem like student fee's, or only those issues which affect students directly are worthy of protest. Someone correct me if I am wrong. And in some ways I know it could attract scorn...but these 'false laws' were drafted and passed primarilly by those university graduates.
I do wonder, and suspect, if alcohol and alcoholism has something to do with the apathetic student bodies? Incredible too, that students can start riots while heavily intoxicated on alcohol and....well......no big deal aye. Grow a few 'plants' on the other hand and your ass may be placed in a 'cage' for some years.
Paul13 - I can understand and fully appreciate the frustrations with the system and the police and how that can make the victims of the America cannabis war in NZ very angry. I have seen this played out many many times and in many different forms over many years.
I know Bubblebobble is just trying to help, and he is a law student after all, and thus has no doubt still has that naieve sense of optomism(no offense intended Bubblebobble) in relation to cannabis law reform which has perhaps abandoned 'many' of us long ago. Those of us who have indeed been 'fucked' by the system and see how the political process and concepts such as the Bill of rights act and self determination and freedom from mollestation and abuse are indeed just 'words'. There are thousands! Bubblebobble isn't one to be taking aim at though - he isn't quite a lawyer yet.
Most often I am not one to advocate a 'mob the police' or any other form of more direct activism. But I will say that there are stirings in the works along these lines simply because the political process has failed and been corrupted, ie Greens abandonement of cannabis law reform advocacy bar medical blah..and even Rasta in parliament cannot change things and select comitee's which are just full of shit.
Every one has a point at which patience and good will can be compromised - and certainly after the election, if ALCP do not gain a seat in parliament I think there will be grounds to look at alternative forms of activism. We cannot simply watch as our brothers and sisters are 'persecuted' by the state for no other reason that it is the will of the USA war on drugs(people).
In the last few days I've given some thought to so many of the words - by myself and others. At some stage one wonders, 'What good are they?' 'Any?' One persists though, because one either does take a more pro-active approach or abandons all sense of reason and does indeed run to the hills. And speaking of that briefly - many who were preyed upon by the state for possesion of a plant do indeed turn their backs on all society forever and do head for the hills. Interpretation? 'Fuck em!' And good for them too.
I personally find it completely demented that this American cannabis war can be maintained in NZ. I've made no secret of this - obviously. I've seen too much harm created through the USA war on drugs in NZ. Too many lives fucked! NO MORE!!! No more Stanlakes! No more newspaper, trial by media...FOX NEWS INSPIRED 'propaganda' unfettered condoneing of gross human rights abuses by those supposed media outfits! You know who you are...make ammends! So too the lawyers who look away. At least that 'one' judge freed Kaurariki. Good job!
I liken this 'war' to something one might normally associate with South American countries. You know, in the early hours of the morning, the police can come and bash your door down, drag you out into the street, ransack your home, steal personal belongings, take you down the police station and photograph you, and take finger prints(and soon DNA)...and then charge you with a false crime....and then....you may be appearing in court up to 15-20 times(if you plead not guilty) before your trial comes up, during which time you may be prevented from leaving the country and placed on house arrest as part of your bail conditions. And for a 'plant'! And that is before you have been conviced(branded for life!).
I think it would be quite reasonable to use some more colorful language even if it is somewhat frowned down upon in the courts for example, and ask simply, 'What the fuck is going on here?' One might stand in the court as ask the judge, 'Why am I being persecuted and prosecuted on behalf of the USA when I cannot vote in their elections?' What the fuck is that all about? !!!!! Any one? Why must we be subjected to USA laws in NZ?
See I've been there - and if there is a next time which I hope there is not - I shall indeed defend myself because I have absolutely 'no faith' what so ever in the justice system in regard to these alleged cannabis crimes. I am far from alone in that sentiment too. I might simply say to the court and the judge, 'Your honour, I do not wish to be difficult, nor do I wish to make it harder on myself - but I stand here today and choose to represent myself because I have no faith in the lawyers, nor the entire foundations on which these proceedings rest. As my defense I wish to simply state that I am innocent(but 'no plea') of all these alleged charges and do not believe for one moment that I can recieve anything remotely close to a fair trial and therefore I wish to call no witnesses nor cross examine any one because if I could indeed cross examine and face my accusor as is supposedly guarenteed to me...I would call the rellavent members of the United Nations and the USA and the NZ govt who have seen fit to 'abuse' me and 'mollest' me and so many thousands of others for no reason what so ever. And with that, I rest my case - now you do what you must. Good day.' =JAIL. Then.................
Would be great to see many 'roaring lions' take this path. Represent yourself and offer no defense at all because it is impoosible and would be ridiculous to try and defend yourself against what is so clearly retarded. To seek to defend yourself against cannabis charges is akin to reasoning with chimpanzes.
Part of the reason is as I have stated in the past which is that the media are brain dead in this area. I know some disagree with me on that point and good for them - but I still maintain that they are half the reason for the continuation of the war on good people.
For example - you have health boards up and down the counrty - they put out their propaganda press releases all year. You have anti-drug trusts up and down the country doing likewise. You have USA staff making sure no reform takes place or economic sanctions..but ussually back room deals and pressure applied. You have a whole host of ant-freedom organisations who see to it that the media cannot and will not give cannabis and the people who use it or grow it a fair go. Who could compete with multi-million dollar funding? Norml? David and Goliath?
The point is...because of the sheer numbers...the 'thousands of people' who are shafted and treated like shit by the media and the lawyers and the judges and the elitist pricks in parliament who perpetuate this shite...at some stage other avenues would have to be considered. I think that it is rational and just to persue logical and peaceful political protest - 'but' eventually...if you, or friends, or family, or brothers and sisters in society at large...are 'preyed upon'...and 'bullied' and 'mollested' and 'harassed', and 'descriminated' against, and 'persecuted'..and 'prosecuted' - and there are 'no representatives' looking out to 'protect' you from this - then there comes a point where you could justify 'defending' your 'right to exist'! Some people might even consider pre-emption part of that process.
Mis-placed anger? Maybe there is a stage at which every one of us would fight? Why oh why would it have to come to that? What is so difficult about tollerance and peace for so many to understand?
You see, divided we are conquered and 'caged', but together...all those thousands who have been 'fucked over' could be a formidable force to be rekoned with.
Now I know the police do not make the laws Bubblebobble. Indeed. And neither do the lawyers. Nor do the crown prosecutors. Nor do the media. Nor do the current politicians who allow this 'abuse and mollestation' to persist. And so who is it? Is it the police? The lawyers? The media? The politicians? The NGO's? The trusts? The United Nations? The USA?
Well...tis not so straight forward...but if someone is at the coal face and they are 'commanded' to 'mollest and abuse' you...and they do....are they not partially responsible? If you were in a war situation and your supperior gave you an order to shoot innocents...and you did...why surely that would be just grounds to attack them and prevent them doing it moreso? No?
Web sites....after the election we'll see....web sites and books of stories of accounts of the mollestation and abuse...oh yes!
The judges have been going well beyond taking the piss. The lawyers too. And the media. Did someone say 'fuck em all?' Oh....thats right...this is the direct consequence of prohibition. I know it...they know it....you know it.....so who has their head in the sand? Prosecuters and judges indeed Paul13 - and the politicians.....morally bankrupt, and have sold out to their lackies in the UN and the USA at great expense to NZ.
Yes...it has everything to do with the student protest. Those few souls who looked further than themselves and stood up for that which would one day perhaps catch up with them....they looked out for their fellow man...and that people is a very worthy and just persuit especially in the absense of this sentiment emanateing from area's where it really should ordinarilly be, such as parliament and the courts themselves.
Oh, sorry, yeah. I forgot that in the past you have smoked out the cop shop and that's why weed is now legal and the cops love marijuana users. My bad on that one.
You know what I think? I think you're misplacing your frustrations on the cops because they're the only ubiquitous face you can associate with these putrid (I won't disagee with you there) laws. What you seem to fail to realise is that they ARE only doing their job, which is what Parliament sets out for them to do. They're pawns. Who's to say they like it any more than you do?
What's the alternative? Quit? Lose their chance at busting rapists and murderers and P manufacturers? Why should they not want to do harm to cannabis users when it's cannabis users who constantly give them shit like smartasses? "Hey yeah bro let's smoke up the pig station. Let's harass them in public." I imagine it's a good vent of frustration to arrest a stoner or two occasionally, just like you seem to like the idea of smoking in public buildings (cf. your brilliant plan to smoke out the proctor's office).
So they don't want to lose s 18? Why should they? I imagine often enough they use it to find evidence if they think someone has done something wrong in another context.
MY POINT HERE before I get too sidetracked and it looks like I'm supporting the cops 100%, is that proactively giving them shit in any way shape or form is not going to help anyone's case. In fact it's only going to make PC Plod more likely to arrest Stoner Y because Stoner X was rude to him the other day.
There's a difference between what the 4:20 crews are doing twice a week, and what is being proposed as of late in this topic. I think the 4:20s are a good idea. One of them generates media attention because it puts the Police in a politically awkward situation where they can't go too hard or too soft. The other, what you'd so love to do, is a situation in which the cops could justify locking people up no trouble if they tried it on any day other than J day. One's gonna work, the other isn't. One generates media attention, the other would generate criminal charges.
But hey, it's no secret that you believe in a "proactive" approach, and I don't. If you're willing to put your freedom on the line for the sake of venting your frustration on cops then fill your boots at your peril, because from where I'm sitting, misplaced anger isn't gonna lead anywhere productive any time soon.
re: my naive sense of optimism. Yes, I probably do have one from where you're sitting. But if I do, I'm gonna have it 'til I lose it, which is gonna be when I actually get fucked over by a pig who goes above and beyond to screw with me. Until then, I think it's fair enough that I keep it.
I also wish to add that being mad at judges, although probably fun for you, is going to do no good. That is what this is all about, isn't it? Good? Not revenge? Are you sure? Really sure? No doubt they've engaged in character assassination when sentencing you. For some of them it's their favourite game. Insult the criminal.
But it's not like they can choose not to sentence you. The judiciary is bound by what Parliament puts in front of them, since we have no constitution. There's no judicial sledgehammer judges can use to whack "unfair" laws out of the codex. They are stuck applying them. If they don't, well, they will pretty soon find themselves out of a job.
I implore you to at least consider my points, if the greater good is what you're after. If it's really revenge that you're after (understandable, it feels so damn good) for all the times you've been hated and discriminated against, then go on being angry at cops and judges. I sincerely bet it feels fucking excellent to have a go. All I'm saying is that if you're actually aiming for CLR, just have a little think about what exactly it is your actions are going to amount to, long term.
It might be an idea to see if those arranging the LEAP activities in NZ shortly want a hand to drop flayers or the like to the cop shops .
Try and encourage them to take note of what LEAP have to say.
Maybe we could help the cops rethink their official stance on Cannabis , and if they do have any sway with the Politicians then lets use it.
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