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MrNiceGuyNZ
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 Re: fighting the system Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:27 pm |
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| charmnsharman wrote: | do any thing?
why the fuck would i do any thing about it?
you dont tell the sheep why the grass grows you just shear them and have a chuckel on the way to the bank. |
Hmmm you sound like a farmer and farmers usually vote for National...
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wal
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:27 pm |
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 and young John Key looks like mr Teflon so far, he loves the farmers, and wants to gut the RMA, and kiwi voters have such short memories. I am part of a farming family, whenever the election comes up its like they're holding their breath, waiting for national to get back in for the pillage. |
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MrNiceGuyNZ
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:39 pm |
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John Key's right hand man Bill English is a farmer from Dipton (Southland)
Considering I am disabled, low qualifications, and work for the public service I sure hope National don't get in, can see myself unemployed soon after the election....Merry Christmas! pffft.
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Greebo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:32 pm |
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| Quote: | Considering I am disabled, low qualifications, and work for the public service I sure hope National don't get in, can see myself unemployed soon after the election....Merry Christmas! pffft.
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I wouldn't be too concerned. If you're performing I wouldn't worry, if not just try to look busy, that normally does the trick. 
In honesty though, a bit of balance is probably needed. I think NZ is a bit too far left wing at the moment, but that's just my opinion. |
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Greebo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:33 pm |
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| 2 posts in 3 years - that must be a record! err make that 3. |
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FascistAnderton
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:32 pm |
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maybe sum1 can change your status from newbie??  |
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MrNiceGuyNZ
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| Greebo wrote: | | Quote: | Considering I am disabled, low qualifications, and work for the public service I sure hope National don't get in, can see myself unemployed soon after the election....Merry Christmas! pffft.
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I wouldn't be too concerned. If you're performing I wouldn't worry, if not just try to look busy, that normally does the trick.
In honesty though, a bit of balance is probably needed. I think NZ is a bit too far left wing at the moment, but that's just my opinion. |
I agree it is too far left, there is too many controls on our lives, we are overtaxed and underpaid, and there is no wonder so many are heading to oz.
A change away from Labour will do Labour good, it's time for a reshuffle and to remove some dead wood, bring in some fresh blood and hopefully some policies that don't cost taxpayers a fortune in the future (ETS) why oh why did I vote greens, oh thats right for the medipot bill pffft fuck them....in return we got the anti smacking bill instead - incarcerating more people rather than a method of stopping a few from going to jail for medical reasons, yep you greens really showed your political 'skills'.
This time round its ALCP through and through.
The only way we are going to fight this is to use politics against politics, their current method of hiding behind politics is why we havn't had much success.
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MrNiceGuyNZ
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National is a party that scares me, even though we want Labour gone, we don't want National in its place, I keep getting a sense that they will take us back to the 90's where average joe got screwed and bob loadedwithcash made huge money at our expense. payrises were around .25% if you were lucky and if you looked at your boss wrong he could fire you. They intend gutting the system, they are promising more than fits their party's agendas and generally everything that comes out of John Key's mouth is bs, have noticed when he is really full of it he doesn't blink and he raises his eyebrows.
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menial
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:22 pm |
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| If it's liberisation of marijuana reform, National are hardly the party to vote for. Voting for the right doesn't always mean "liberal", most of the time it just means "conservative". |
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Greebo
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Yeah, you're right menial. Unfortunately we've already had 9 years of left wing government with no significant change, even though Labour are a socially liberal party. I guess that's why Libertarian parties like ACT appeal to me personally, even though cannabis reform probably isn't high on their agenda, unlike ALCP.
| Quote: | | and generally everything that comes out of John Key's mouth is bs |
Along with every other politician in the planet.
I do think that it will do Labour good to be out of government for awhile as well. |
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menial
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:15 pm |
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| Are Act legalisation or are they harsher punishment for anyone caught? |
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Greebo
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:28 pm |
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Don't know, I don't really know about the act party specifically. They are a libertarian party, which centres around individual freedom and low government. Government intervention is only considered appropriate when an individual's acts affect other people.
They say zero tolerance on crime but I did find this on their web site regarding cannabis:
| Quote: | "What are your views and intentions concerning cannabis law reform"
My personal view is currently in two parts:
Firstly I would vote for it to be decriminalised if required for medical purposes,
Secondly, I am undecided on general decriminalisation and would need to look into the implications further. However freedom and responsibility need to be balanced. So I would considered it along similar lines to alcohol, ie 'weed and driving' would still be against the law, I don't know enough to comment on the levels.
I feel a party vote for ACT would be a move towards the realistic goal of freedom linked with responsibility. |
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paula
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rasputin
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:23 pm |
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| Good Stuff. |
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MrNiceGuyNZ
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:42 am |
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progressives website has been revamped, Jim spouting how much he cares blah blah, not one mention of drugs.
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