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Post    Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:30 am Reply with quote

paula wrote:
If you keep replacing every player in any sports team who is partial to recreational substance use then business would be down the toilet.

A similar point was made by the head of spanish sport to wada but they weren't having "an ounce of it". I guess the "smoke" has got up their nose.

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Yes, we do, and the "best medicine" causes laughter which is the best medicine.

.. and so the circle of life revolves ..
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Post    Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:10 am Reply with quote

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"ahem.. hello.. tap tap.. has someone turned the microphone off.. um.. isn't this what we've been saying about cannabis prohibition for a little while now. "

gotto say when i read this I had to grin ,

It sums up my medpot activity in one simple sentence .

Love it.

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Post    Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:39 pm Reply with quote

I had a sniff Simon D did not test positive to cannabis ... well what i heard was a number tested positive to cannabis but one to something else .Sounds like he might have been fitted up...



wonder about the number of positive cannabis results currently being withheld over a number of sports both in NZ and Australia ...
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Post    Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:09 pm Reply with quote

On the worldwide picture, what about this then ?

World of sport braced for new drugs scandal
By David Bond 11/10/2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/10/11/sobond111.xml

A raid by federal agents across America has left anti-doping campaigners fearful that sport could be facing a new drugs scandal even bigger than the Balco affair.
Led by the Drugs Enforcement Agency, 124 people were arrested at the end of last month in 27 states in a crackdown on an international underground doping ring supplying illegal steroids and Human Growth Hormone. Even more worryingly for the World Anti Doping Agency and the International Olympic Committee 10 months from the Beijing Games is that the drugs were supplied to around 50 US laboratories from Chinese drugs factories.

The raids, part of an 18-month investigation called 'Operation Raw Deal', were carried out with the full co-operation of WADA and the US Anti Doping Agency, as well as the Chinese Government, who are now acutely aware of the need to clean up their reputation ahead of next summer's Olympics.
- see link for the rest of the article -
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Post    Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:39 am Reply with quote

I wonder if a report done discussing the advantages of cannabis over alcohol as a means of recreationally unwinding has been brought out of the safe at Rugby Union HQ of late..

I wonder if they might join in some other oval ball groups and try and convince WANDA to wonder if it might not be a good idea to remove cannabis from the register .


It does not take a rocket scientist to do a cost benefit evaluation between two recreational drugs Alcohol and cannabis within the sporting codes.

Pre the heavy drug sport testing of today NZ was top of the pops .. the drug of choice for many of our sports people was cannabis. It helped with sleep and relaxations , away to unwind...

Its still by far the predominant drug sportspeople are picked up on in NZ today .

We might well be still looking forward to some rugby and still talking up our chances not discussing the memorable aspect of our world cup , was pissed allblack a good example of our culture ..

Why don't we hear from these past sports persons , advocating a removal of cannabis.. because they can't speak out ,, it will as if they took performance enhancing drugs and they will be villafied .

Our sporting bodies are going to have to get more vocal , cannabis must be free to use without fear of consequence

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Post    Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:38 pm Reply with quote

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I wonder if a report done discussing the advantages of cannabis over alcohol as a means of recreationally unwinding has been brought out of the safe at Rugby Union HQ of late..
I imagine Jock Hobbs et al are more interested in how they can hold onto their cushy jobs. Yes I also wish more would be interested in finding their nuts again and speaking out. They must feel that they still have too much to lose, are not desperate enough, are not ill, maybe gotta keep the wife happy. Ho bloody hum.
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Post    Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:41 pm Reply with quote

Personally; I'd like to see Drugs turned into a sport! We'd kick ass at the World Cup, the cannabis cup, that is. icon_cool.gif

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Post    Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:51 pm Reply with quote

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Personally; I'd like to see Drugs turned into a sport! We'd kick ass at the World Cup, the cannabis cup, that is. icon_cool.gif

Steveoh


What ??

Roll the Joint.
Toss the cabbage
420 sailing
Roach rowing
Herbathalon,

Hmm the torch could be interesting..Can I carry that.

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Post    Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:53 pm Reply with quote

teehee.. the stoner olympics..

put me down for the high jump..

no way am I doing the coxless pairs..!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Post    Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:02 pm Reply with quote

I play lacrosse, we all like to smoke a joint before we head out onto the field!
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Post    Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:38 pm Reply with quote

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teehee.. the stoner olympics..

put me down for the high jump..

no way am I doing the coxless pairs..!! icon_rolleyes.gif


Hmm any chance video games will get recognised as a stoner sport, If so, I'm in! icon_biggrin.gif
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Post    Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:42 pm Reply with quote

Tony wrote:
I wonder if a report done discussing the advantages of cannabis over alcohol as a means of recreationally unwinding has been brought out of the safe at Rugby Union HQ of late..

I wonder if they might join in some other oval ball groups and try and convince WANDA to wonder if it might not be a good idea to remove cannabis from the register .


It does not take a rocket scientist to do a cost benefit evaluation between two recreational drugs Alcohol and cannabis within the sporting codes.

Pre the heavy drug sport testing of today NZ was top of the pops .. the drug of choice for many of our sports people was cannabis. It helped with sleep and relaxations , away to unwind...

Its still by far the predominant drug sportspeople are picked up on in NZ today .

We might well be still looking forward to some rugby and still talking up our chances not discussing the memorable aspect of our world cup , was pissed allblack a good example of our culture ..

Why don't we hear from these past sports persons , advocating a removal of cannabis.. because they can't speak out ,, it will as if they took performance enhancing drugs and they will be villafied .

Our sporting bodies are going to have to get more vocal , cannabis must be free to use without fear of consequence

tony


Only drug acceptable for sports people to use is alcohol.

All Blacks lose the world cup, then spend $30k on the bar, gee wonder why Doug decided to smash up the place.....

If it were cannabis the All Blacks would have all mellowed out, talked alot of shit and be in bed by 10. No trouble, nothing broken and their pride intact.
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Post    Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:14 pm Reply with quote

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If it were cannabis the All Blacks would have all mellowed out, talked alot of shit and be in bed by 10. No trouble, nothing broken and their pride intact.

If the All Blacks smoked herb instead of having a drinking culture (and also they were undermined by the AB Corporation mentality), they would still be in the World Cup and would probably win the Final. Go the All Greens! Wear the Silver Bud with pride.
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Post    Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:04 pm Reply with quote

Don't kow about the ABs, but here interesting insight into the effect of the black market on what sounds like could be lots of Aussie footie players. Is a bit too long to post in full, I might get a telling off . . .

Inside the Eagles drug nightmare
October 20, 2007
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/behind-the-drug-nightmare/2007/10/20/1192301083329.html
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Post    Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:41 pm Reply with quote

I had heard the NZ sporting organizations had been lobbing WADA rather hard to reclassify cannabis .
They have been gathering up supportive evidence but I understand it has been creating a bit of problem for the sports minister and the general policy labour are trying to portray re cannabis to ensure they adhere to the coalition agreement.Its been kept under wraps . Now its seems to have been blown by lamour in a throwaway statement on Thursday. now lets see whats what with Costa , I think the Aussies might have that under control.Its a shame its the sports writers sitting on some stuff at the moment rather than one of the more aggressive journos . but this is a good read.. But don't tell anyone it might cause our Minister of Sport a few head aches .
tony


Jean-Francois Lamour, the former French sports minister who was also a World Anti-Doping Agency vice president and presumably the man who would replace Dick Pound, made news this week by angrily dropping out of contention for the top job at WADA. Lamour tossed a few verbal grenades as he skulked out the door.

From CyclingNews.com, quoting an article in Thursday’s issue of L’Equipe:

“I don’t want to be the president of a World Anti-Doping Agency which has no clear and straightforward vision of its mission, and which cannot stand firm against outside pressure,” Lamour told L’Equipe on Thursday, discrediting especially the Anglo-Saxon members of WADA.

“Every year, we fight to keep the list of banned substances coherent: that corticoids, against the will of the Anglo-Saxons, remain forbidden; that the detection of exogenous testosterone remains at a first threshold of four (4:1) when the Anglo-Saxons want to return it to six. I also note that the New Zealanders have been battling for the authorization of cannabis for a while now… And those who praise the liberalisation of doping aren’t very far away.”
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