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hometoad
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Post    Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:17 pm Reply with quote

BudBeard wrote:
That Bastard got the whole world hating upon New Zealand, and his assult was used to justfy hugely increased security measures for the upcoming World Cup.

Perhaps a bit like Sept 11 on a smaller scale
I know the original assault story didn't and doesn't make the pacific or moari community who he was blaming look good or new zealand as a whole look good on the world stage.

I don't really care how the world perceives me or my country to be. I'm proud of who I am and for the most part I'm proud to call myself a kiwi. The thing that makes me happy is its the alcohol that was the main problem along with this clowns lack of moral fortitude to put his hand up and say hay look I had a bit to much to drink and I arsed over.

Game over, final score Cannabis 1 alcohol 0 the big doughnut icon_biggrin.gif
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Post    Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:18 pm Reply with quote

Let's not get too carried away (anti-French) about drunks concocting stories to explain their injuries. If the media had waited a while for the truth to emerge before going to town over the story then the damage to NZ's supposedly "safe place" reputation probably wouldn't have been so bad. I'm sure the player (or players) involved didn't want his lie broadcast worldwide. Funny thing is that it seemed so believable simply because there is a greater chance of getting assaulted in our main centres at night these days (or so we are led to believe).

If I remember correctly, the former mayor of Wellington Mark Blumsky also claimed that he was assaulted (by someone smoking a joint no less) while he was very drunk in Cuba St, and yet the most likely explanation for his injuries and memory loss appeared to be that he fell down some stairs of his own accord.
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Post    Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:49 pm Reply with quote

potshots wrote:
Let's not get too carried away (anti-French) about drunks concocting stories to explain their injuries. If the media had waited a while for the truth to emerge before going to town over the story then the damage to NZ's supposedly "safe place" reputation probably wouldn't have been so bad.
Yip, for sure. Unfortunately, alcohol and the media are two of my favourite whipping horses and I can get carried away...
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Post    Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:10 pm Reply with quote

Yep that was a joke there..not serious..because bastareaud is close to bastard etc. But 4 sure a few tokes and he would have been mellowing on the couch!! icon_biggrin.gif
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Post    Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:42 pm Reply with quote

Yip, then he would of been pinged in a random drug test, booted home, kicked out of the French team, lost his club contract and more than likely banned for life. Instead he will get a pansy arsed reprimand, blame his religous upbringing made him guilty and life goes on.
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Post    Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:22 pm Reply with quote

NorthlandAndy wrote:
Yip, then he would of been pinged in a random drug test, booted home, kicked out of the French team, lost his club contract and more than likely banned for life. Instead he will get a pansy arsed reprimand, blame his religous upbringing made him guilty and life goes on.


I think it's all quite funny. He's only 20 and he only told what he thought was a trouble avoiding fib - which unfortunately took off. I just heard some upset people like Mayor Prendegast on the radio - it's hilarious.

He's become a legend! Up there with the Chappells, Hopoati etc.

Time spent trying to catch a non existant assailant, is time not spent busting people for cannabis.
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Post    Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:17 pm Reply with quote

NorthlandAndy wrote:
Yip, then he would of been pinged in a random drug test, booted home, kicked out of the French team, lost his club contract and more than likely banned for life. Instead he will get a pansy arsed reprimand, blame his religous upbringing made him guilty and life goes on.

Very good point.


Paul13 wrote:
I think it's all quite funny. He's only 20 and he only told what he thought was a trouble avoiding fib - which unfortunately took off. I just heard some upset people like Mayor Prendegast on the radio - it's hilarious.

Yeah, it's hard not to laugh at all the hysteria and indignation. It's almost as if those who are outraged would've preferred that he had actually been assaulted.

I see that the NZ Rugby Union are "outraged" over the lie and yet the NZRU seem to be constantly dealing with the drunken indescretions of some of its employees including All Blacks. What's more the NZRU often try to keep things "hush, hush".

Ironically, one of the last All Blacks to go to court for allegedly assaulting his girlfriend (alcohol probably involved) had his charged withdrawn at the last moment because it was obvious that he was actually defending himself from his out of control TV presenter gf rather than assaulting her. I don't even think she got into any trouble for wasting police and court time and resources.

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He's become a legend! Up there with the Chappells, Hopoati etc.

Not quite, Paul13. Those "legends" transgressed on the sports field in spectacular ways ie they are notorious cheats.

Bastareaud's just a liar. He didn't even assault anyone, unlike some NZRU players. The only person he's "hurt" is his himself.

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Time spent trying to catch a non existant assailant, is time not spent busting people for cannabis.

Very good point.
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Post    Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:02 am Reply with quote

I found the whole Bastareaud thing funny. Typical media picking up a story like this and running with it for all it's worth. The media frenzy was worse/more damaging than the 'incident' icon_rolleyes.gif

On Tonys original question: It depends on good old set and setting. Most of the time I smoke in a responsible way.

Not too many years ago I had a fairly bad addiction to other drugs and sometimes I get the urge to over-indulge in something.
I only smoke weed now (seldom drink even) it's definitely the safest choice for me. Occasionally I smoke way too much and green out, I regret it because my bag disappears fast, smoking myself sober is a waste of weed.

It seldom happens but I'm of the opinion that if I'm going to smoke myself sober then I prefer that than drink myself dead or get f****d up on something harder.
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Post    Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:56 am Reply with quote

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sometimes I get the urge to over-indulge in something.
LOL, how human !
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It seldom happens but I'm of the opinion that if I'm going to smoke myself sober then I prefer that than drink myself dead or get f****d up on something harder.
Hear hear!!
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Post    Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:54 pm Reply with quote

France apologises for Bastareaud
PM Key receives letter from French PM Fillon apologising for Mathieu Bastareaud who claimed he had been attacked in Wellington
2 July 2009

French Prime Minister Francois Fillon has apologised to John Key over the Mathieu Bastareaud affair. In a letter to the Prime Minister he condemns the lies of the rugby player, who claimed he had been attacked in Wellington. Mr Fillon went on to say rugby has always helped the two nations develop mutual respect and he hopes the incident does not damage that. "The French team's tour of New Zealand was marked by the unjustifiable behaviour of one its players. Through his false statements, as a result of which you had to intervene publicly, he seriously tainted the image of your country and its people.
"You may be assured that I deplore this incident. Our two countries share the culture of rugby. This sport has always enabled our two nations to come together and share a mutual respect. I hope that these sentiments will prevail after this regrettable affair.
"Like all rugby fans, I am delighted that your country is organising the next World Cup in 2011."

Paris correspondent Catherine Field says Mr Fillon's move is highly unusual. "It might be quite normal in New Zealand for a prime minister to have to know a lot about rugby and to have to talk off the bat about it, but for France to actually intervene like this, is extraordinary."
Bastareaud claimed he had been attacked by up to five men outside the team's hotel in Wellington after France was defeated 14-10 in the second Test against the All Blacks. However, when police found evidence that he had suffered the facial injuries after returning to his hotel in the early hours of June 21, the centre changed his version of events and said he had hit his head on a bedside table after drinking too much. He said he invented the story about being attacked because he was scared of being taken off the French team.
His club said Bastareaud was on holiday in the French West Indies but he was admitted to hospital after trying to take his life by jumping into the Seine.

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=102092&fm=psp,nwl
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