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Go join the police and you see they have'nt got new recruits sitting there clicking on buttons to bust you.
More than likely they are relying on public narking to get the job done.
New recruits are also more than likely out there busting up drunken fights on the street or dealing with another domestic or behind a radar waiting for his next 200 dollar fine.
"If you were a Jew in the period when the trains were running to Auschwitz, your chances of being hidden by your gentile neighbors were greater if you lived in Denmark or Italy than if you lived in Belgium. A common way of describing this difference is by saying that many Danes and Italians showed a sense of human solidarity which many Belgians lacked. Orwell's vision was of a world in which such human solidarity was - deliberately, through careful planning - made impossible."
c.f Contingency, irony, and solidarity.
Richard Rorty 1989
Cambridge University Press..p.p 189
...no way,,,you'd never consider such a job...it's not in yur world view
...Police cyber crime lab.... ...ya kidding right
1984 Orwell, still very relevant, actually i have a rather large file on you Mr Nice Guy
as always, making job applications for my fantasy position in the power elite....uber ME.... Nietzsche anyone ...fuck he might be German...oh well, at least he's not Belgian...cookies anyone
I was busted for the first time as a result of participateing in a 'debate' on an online forum. It was deemed that I knew too much even though I was endeavouring to elucidate many issues which I considered would positive in so far as saving lives and seeking to reduce, or prevent, and stop, the 'USA war on Kiwi's.'
I had also warned of the imminent threat methamphetamine would pose. Bassically, all my input was ignored and only considered suitable for busting me. A 'mole', who could be thought of as a sympathiser(for there are so many in the courts and police) eased my mind by confirming that my intuitive hunch was correct and the paranoia and anxiety and depression brought about as a result of the bust and subsequent persecution/prosecution/conviction had its origins in the puritanical fundamentalism of quasi Xtian key stone cops behind a screen who were simply working on behalf of the USA war on drugs in NZ.
Kafka any one? The trial? Quite.
Mr informant which didn't exist. Evidence which was non existent. Trial by media. Defamation. Lack of duty of care. Incompetant and negligent legal council. Corrupt judiciary! Corrupt judiciary!!!!
The E-crime unt basscially have a free hand to do as they please. They are not really subject to controls and standards. They recruit the best hackers and if they so desire...will fuck you.
MDA1975 any one? HA! They propose to...they 'propose'.....'they'.....who exactly is 'they'? Exactly! MDA1975 'review' akin to the clean up of the corporate rape and pillage at Enron. Sweep it under the carpet already and let it fester....aye uncle....until.....wait for it.....trillions!!! Make Enron seem squeaky clean!
What do you do with people who can be busted time and time again and who will not conform to the USA war on drugs? Dakta any one
'They' do monitor the forums and the internet and I think that unless you are involved in large scale cannabis cultivation/dealing or other drug activity, or other serious crime, you should be ok. But that could be wrong. It only takes one bad apple to spoil them all.
Imagine if you had credible evidence of over one hundred people who were at this very moment in possesion of cannabis? What if you had more than that? What if you had names(at the least) of judges and lawyers and doctors and school principles and CEO's and politicians and police and sports people in a black book? You know...like make Heidi Fleiss seem like a nun.
Imagine...imagine if someone suddenly had a fantastic idea that it really isn't a good idea to wage war on your own citezens by the thousands? Imagine, if someone suddenly woke up and thought, 'We don't need, nor do we want, and nor did we vote for USA laws in NZ!'. Just think if some politicians realised that whales and dolphins are one thing, but people are another!
Wouldn't it just be incredible if 'human rights' were acknowledged and respected, and upheld as being basic tenets of a free and just society? Magna Carta any one?How many thousands have the distinction of the USA cannabis brand in NZ? What you mean I am found guilty before the trial? I want to cross examine the UN!
Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3082 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:21 pm
Mention the Magna Carta these days and you're liable to get a headshake, a pat on the head, and yeah right, move along. The justice fraternity seem to be way past that, as you say. I've been shootin my gob off a bit on that trademe opinion forum, as have a couple of others from here, but they tend to stick just to the pot threads. There are all sorts there, its weird
Joined: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 2291 Location: Queensland
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:55 am
They are?
I dunno eh, I just quit till the test.
But they are not cheap either the anti-drug test stuff? _________________ Hardcore 4 Cannabis since 2004
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Yes quitting is your best option, you can't go wrong with that.
They are either free(get someone else's urine) or cheap, 65$ for a bottle of synthetic urine. The pills and drinks don't do anything don't waste your time with that.
Joined: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 2291 Location: Queensland
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:58 pm
I wouldnt have been able to smuggle someone elses piss or synthetic into a drug test, they checked all the pockets for all the ways around like you were on crack or herion and made sure you were so clean, i just like
"what a waste of everyones time",
then started smoking again straight after.
The systems fucked, no matter what, they will never stop it. _________________ Hardcore 4 Cannabis since 2004
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But that's the point. 'They' are getting exactly what they want. The situation as it stands today with all the negative consequences for the ordinary person is what people with real power WANT. It is done with conscious, deliberate purpose and intent.
Think about all the trillions of dollars that have been spent around the globe over the decades on prohibition. The bottom line is that the 'war on drugs' is highly profitable and a useful tool for social control, for certain people in our global society. What a shameful waste of resources.
In 20 years from now when the people have finally thrown of these corrupt and criminal institutions, people will think how backwards and primitive our society was.
Keep fighting and never give up, the day when we regain control of these criminal and corrupt institutions is near...
Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3082 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:21 pm
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The bottom line is that the 'war on drugs' is highly profitable and a useful tool for social control, for certain people in our global society. What a shameful waste of resources.
It definately may be trillions by now, I'm no mathematician but this from the Washington Post gives us an idea : http://tinyurl.com/5l2kay Wasting Drug War Resources - The Key Is Cutting Demand, Not Supply By Duncan Smith-Rohrberg Maru, November 24, 2008
and I was just reading this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_and_PunishDiscipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison by philosopher Michel Foucault. Am not sure whether I wan't to order and read the whole book
because it was mentioned in this blogpost, or by someone in its discussion posts (about the rise of surveillance society)
Database Nation | Nov 24, 2008
http://publicaddress.net/default,5524,database_nation.sm#post
GUEST: Tom Chapman is justifiably uneasy
Another thing I learned in the comments was about John Key's DNA plan for all arrestees, which I'd been really concerned about and still am not reassured http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0810/S00672.htm "As is the case with fingerprints and photographs, we will require DNA records to be destroyed where charges are dropped or where suspects are found not guilty."
Another poster there commented: So not quite as evil as it sounds in the oft-repeated summary. Probably (pending yet more info) still encourages police to lay charges for the blood test tho, and frankly, can't they wait for the conviction?
Apologies if you've already read of these things
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Joined: Aug 20, 2006 Posts: 958 Location: h=6.626x10‾34 Mood: sisyphustic
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:58 am
It's all good Paula, I miss stuff all the time.
There have been a number of good books written about this particular topic.
Drug Warriors and their Prey is just one...
Quote:
The war on drugs is a war on ordinary people. Using that premise, historian Richard Lawrence Miller analyzes America's drug war with passion seldom encountered in scholarly writing. Miller presents numerous examples of drug law enforcement gone amok, as police and courts threaten the happiness, property, and even lives of victims. Miller not only argues that criminal justice zealots are harming the democracy they are sworn to protect, but that authoritarians unfriendly to democracy are stoking public fear in order to convince citizens to relinquish traditional legal rights. Those are the very rights that thwart implementation of an agenda of social control through government power. Miller contends that an imaginary "drug crisis" has been manufactured by authoritarians in order to mask their war on democracy. He not only examines numerous civil rights sacrificed in the name of drugs, but demonstrates how their loss harms ordinary Americans in their everyday lives.
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