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30 June 2008
A group of nine-year-old boys has been stood down from a Rotorua primary school, after being caught smoking cannabis.
The five boys are students at Owhata Primary School. It is believed the joint was found by one of the boys on his way to school.
Local principals association member Patrick Walsh says whether it happens in a high school or primary school, drug use is affecting students' education. He says school is all about learning and if you are using drugs, you cannot be learning properly.
I personally thought this was a bit tough as does a nine year old have any concept of what cannabis is as apposed to tobacco? and what has suspending them achieved? I would have been more inclined to have given them an arts class ie painting, drawing, music or something.
All I can say is creative learning opportunity lost for students and educators alike.
Joined: Dec 02, 2007 Posts: 40 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:35 pm
reminds me of the start of half baked lol _________________ "Marijuana prohibition has caused far more harm to far more people than Marijuana ever could"
Joined: Apr 17, 2008 Posts: 347 Location: West Auckland
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:55 pm
In my opinion all this talk about making our kids more awear of the "Evils of drugs" is a load of crock, all it is achieving is one of three things:
1, detering our youth from drugs and making them sheeps for the rest of their lives
2, Informing them and giving them information about drugs that some kids may think is cool and thus opening up the world of drugs to them, as they think they know what drugs are all about and get screwed up worse on the harder stuff.
3, not going to do a damn thing as it is your peers that really affect you, if all your mates smoke pot then you may aswel smoke pot. _________________ Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter-accusations
Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3082 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:53 pm
Yep, a virtual choc fish for ya, and have a quick read of what I posted here today :
http://www.norml.org.nz/posts5519-45.html Drug prohibition an untenable hypocrisy Julian Critchley has come out and said what those in charge of UK drug policy won't admit:
prohibition doesn't work
wow cases like this are so few and far between that all knowen cases are out there and blowen up so much that you'd think that 8yo's are freaking sellin in every corner of the playground, swappin tinnies for rollups and juice boxes.
What a fucking load of shit, the only thing that such public deisplays cause is more kiddies seeing it and thinking "kewl another thing I'm not aloud to do, so Im'a go do it to be oh so kewl"
It was the same when I was at intermediate "all of about 12 years ago" hardly anyone knew what weed "realy" was or even what it looked like, one kid got caught with a joint and then we had a big seminar with the whole school and by the time it ended we knew what weed was what it looked like how "evil" it was and everyone was itching to go get some, as oppsoed to the day befor when we new nothing.
Joined: Apr 17, 2008 Posts: 347 Location: West Auckland
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:35 pm
Souless_Toke wrote:
It was the same when I was at intermediate "all of about 12 years ago" hardly anyone knew what weed "realy" was or even what it looked like, one kid got caught with a joint and then we had a big seminar with the whole school and by the time it ended we knew what weed was what it looked like how "evil" it was and everyone was itching to go get some, as oppsoed to the day befor when we new nothing.
Exactly, all these drug informative programmes are just making things worse for the government, but giving students all the info they need on a silver platter...but hey maybe when the youth of today is in power we may see the end of prohibition...although I highly doubt that, at least for the time being _________________ Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter-accusations
Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3082 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:57 pm
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Exactly, all these drug informative programmes are just making things worse for the government, but giving students all the info they need on a silver platter...
Do you really think so ?
So you wouldn't agree that there are always going to be kids who are up for a bit of an adventure and going to try it, whether or not they've got the information ? I don't really know what its like these days, as far as I can tell its part of the health curriculum which also includes things like nutrition, exercise, etc.
I don't know what its like in the classroom though, of course. What was yours like ?
The only drug ed I got at school was a talk from an oldish ex-heroin user in a wheelchair at assembly once. All I remember is he talked about cannabis the same way as heroin, and no discussion. I wasn't the only one who'd already tried pot so drug ed credibility pretty much went out the window
I just saw this :
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It is on heard of in my country. Such children I bate you come from families whose parents take it too. Parents rather teach your children alternative uses of herbs to your children.
Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3082 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:44 pm
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It is on heard of in my country. Such children I bate you come from families whose parents take it too. Parents rather teach your children alternative uses of herbs to your children.
Thats is indeed up to parents, and I wouldn't encourage anyone to buy herbs over the internet. They're easy enough to grow or source locally. Goodbye.
It is on heard of in my country. Such children I bate you come from families whose parents take it too. Parents rather teach your children alternative uses of herbs to your children.
Your a funny guy, I hope you've already been banned.
Joined: Dec 02, 2007 Posts: 40 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:28 pm
yea i remember getin baked at college especially wit apples and soda cans . _________________ "Marijuana prohibition has caused far more harm to far more people than Marijuana ever could"
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