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XLH
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 doofus future of US pot enforcement Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:38 pm |
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this congressman is the doofus who would like u.s. drug czar John Walters' cushy job - head of DEA (drug enforcement) - when he retires. no doubt if he does then there will be years more of bull**** about cannabis. the u.s. political attitude toward pot is what drives all the UN and drug agreements NZ is signatory to.
CONGRESSMAN SOUDER SMOKES THE KOOL-AID*Bill Piper, DPA's director of national affairs, discusses an appearance by Congressman Mark Souder on Tucker Carlson's show on MSNBC:*
Last week I was supposed to be on MSNBC to talk about the federal government's stupid anti-marijuana ads. I was bumped at the last minute because the host, Tucker Carlson, wanted to interview Congressman Mark Souder (R-IN) instead. I never thought I would say this, but I'm glad I got bumped. Souder made a total fool of himself.
First, he said that smoking marijuana is not that much different from doing lines of cocaine or smoking crack in terms of the dangers. This sends the wrong message to teens. By saying that marijuana, a relatively benign drug, is as dangerous as crack cocaine it minimizes the real dangers associated with cocaine use.
Then Souder went on to say that thousands of Americans die from marijuana every year and that everyone who smokes marijuana will eventually become an addict. And this is from the ranking Republican on the House subcommittee that oversees federal drug war policies. Wow.
I've posted a transcript of some of what he said below.
And oh yeah, I'm proud to say that I went toe-to-toe against Drug Czar John Walters in a hundred newspapers earlier this month: http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/ctt.asp?u=518294&l=137379
Partial transcript of Souder's remarks:
REP. SOUDER: Marijuana is the primary gateway drug, although tobacco and alcohol, because they're all illegal for youth, you could argue that tobacco is a gateway drug to marijuana. Smoking marijuana is then a gateway drug for others. Furthermore, the THC content of BC Bud, Quebec Gold and this marijuana that's currently on the streets isn't like the Cheech and Chong marijuana. It's more like cocaine. But, that aside, I and members of Congress believe this ad program -
MR. CARLSON: How is it more like -- hold on. I'm sorry, Congressman. How is it more like coke? I don't understand what you mean by that.
REP. SOUDER: In other words, the THC of ditchweed and what was happening when I was in college in the late '60s and early '70s had a THC of 4 to 8 percent, maybe as high as 12. Now we're looking at 20, 30, 40 percent. And the kick and the addiction you get, the destruction in your brain cells, is more like coke or crack than it is like the old-time marijuana.
Rep. Souder made these comments as he was defending the Bush Administration's request for more funding for anti-marijuana TV ads that have been shown to actually increase youth marijuana use. Every evaluation of the program has found that they're doing more harm than good. One of the reasons the campaign has backfired is that the ads make ridiculous statements that teens reject, such as equating marijuana use with terrorism and suggesting that smoking marijuana will lead one to kill people.
For the importance of 100% honesty when talking to teens about drugs see our Safety First website: http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/ctt.asp?u=518294&l=137380 . |
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Drefetr
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Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:46 pm |
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| How can anyone believe this trite? |
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Tony
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:24 pm |
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| Drefetr wrote: | | How can anyone believe this trite? |
Ask someone first hand , Try Jim anderton or peter Dunne , not only do they believe it but they actually formulate our drug policy based on this concept..
Even worse they lump cannabis and P together..then they wonder why NZ has one of the worst record for P addiction and complications ...
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MrNiceGuyNZ
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:54 pm |
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| Tony wrote: | | Drefetr wrote: | | How can anyone believe this trite? |
Ask someone first hand , Try Jim anderton or peter Dunne , not only do they believe it but they actually formulate our drug policy based on this concept..
Even worse they lump cannabis and P together..then they wonder why NZ has one of the worst record for P addiction and complications ...
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Yep...their drug policies are really working
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TENFOLD INCREASE IN METHAMPHETAMINE ENTERING NZ
Police and customs officials say the amount of pure methamphetamine
("P") entering New Zealand has increased tenfold in the past year.
Customs spokesman Paul Campbell said criminal rings, many based in
China, were using seemingly legitimate import companies to bring in
the drugs as shipping cargo and on yachts.
Police and customs staff lacked the resources to carry out large drug
bust operations "beyond the first level of distribution", he told
Radio New Zealand.
He said the value of the drugs in New Zealand was 10 times what it
would have been in their country of origin.
A police National Drug Intelligence Bureau spokesman said the main
focus for police was domestic use of methamphetamine.
However, they were reviewing the need to put more money and time into
stopping the drug from entering the country. |
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A_non
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:58 pm |
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this is such BS
How the hell is it going to be legalised with bios idiots like that around the world
Legalise pot its the right thing to do |
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beendazedandconfused
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:17 pm |
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| its funny how so many politicians are out of touch on how drugs really effect people |
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paula
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:37 pm |
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I think they know, they just prefer to hypocritical about it, like so many other people.
Our society is riddled with mixed messages, I'm sure many of our teens struggle badly with that. |
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Thread_Killer
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Location: h=6.626x10‾34 Mood: sisyphustic
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:43 pm |
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| Drefetr wrote: | | How can anyone believe this trite? |
It helps if you're republican and a brethren.
The scary thing is, this fundie wackjob also controls US foreign drug policy. He is the a-hole who wants to mass spray a fungus that kills MJ in non-US countries. If thats not bad enough, it could mutate and wipe out all vegetation. Still, him being a bible basher, bringing on the apocalypse as well, is killing two birds.
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paula
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XLH
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:33 pm |
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spin, the great enemy of reality, how stupid. with the availability of internet and some people still able to think for themselves (shock horror) these messages can surely only be fooling the politicians themselves plus their drones and lackeys ????? hopefully they are not a majority in USa. but wait, they are a majority here, so why not there . . . [screams] off for a mid afternoon  |
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paula
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:29 pm |
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 Know what you mean about screaming, its hideous isn't it . . . |
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paula
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This was a nasty read . . .
June 10, 2008
A Lovely Afternoon at ONDCP Headquarters
http://blog.drugpolicy.org/2008/06/pee-cup-stacking-games-and-grimaces.html
On May 7th, the White House Office on National Drug Control Policy opened up its cave to school teachers, principals, administrators (and a few drug policy reformers) to have an impartial conversation about random student drug testing. Approximately 45 people showed up to the event, and what was great was that about 20 of those who attended only had to travel a few feet from their ONDCP desks! The setting was ONDCP's 5th floor conference room. It had no windows and really felt like a cave. . .
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. . . (1) the North Carolina school district discussed their RSDT program entitled "It's My Call," which featured a carnival activity of stacking pee cups in order to "desensitize" student participants to the realities of submitting urine samples.
- see link above for the rest - |
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Tony
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:29 am |
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They have got to closet themselves in windowless , cave like rooms , its fits with their psychological profile .
tony |
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South_side_of_the_sky
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:24 pm |
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| Quote: | | its funny how so many politicians are out of touch on how drugs really effect people |
it's funny how so many people who've never blazed think weed has lsd like effects, having conversations with these ignorant idiots who actually think weeds going to have you seeing coulours, tripping balls and unsafely out of touch with reality is really starting to piss me off |
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paula
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:25 pm |
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| Quote: | | idiots who actually think weeds going to have you seeing coulours, tripping balls and unsafely out of touch with reality |
Darn it, all these years I been waitin . . .  |
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