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Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3082 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:21 pm
Daddy0 wrote:
So its good news that individual police officers are letting people off instead of charging them for minor cannabis offences.
They've had 'discretion' about that for years. Its up to the individual officer whether to just throw the pot away and tell you to move along . . . we asked for details of that discretion years ago too, to see how the numbers stacked up.
They said they didn't keep a record of the number who 'got away'. How unsurprising (that must be why there are so many people out there saying the fuzz pocketed their pot) but maybe they keep a record these days. It would take another OIA (Official Infirmation Act) letter to find out. I've had my one for the year and after one I think they charge you for doing the research to answer the question.
menial you're entitled to voice your opinion about the appearance of the protesters, and daddy0 shouldn't have attacked you like that. I also had a very quick cringe when I saw a photo of a march somewhere on ODT site yesterday. I saw both Abe and Julian on tv last night and thought they looked quite good because Abe has recently had a haircut, and Julian cut his earlier this year. It could have been rather a lot worse
Joined: Feb 19, 2004 Posts: 1346 Location: Nelson area
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:50 pm
paula wrote:
Abe has recently had a haircut, and Julian cut his earlier this year. It could have been rather a lot worse
I remember when Julian was a beardy wierdy _________________ Regulation will set cannabis free
Freedom's just a TICK away - VOTE Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party 2008 then everyone's a winner
Contact me: steven@alcp.org.nz Party website http://www.alcp.org.nz
Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3082 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:53 pm
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I remember when Julian was a beardy wierdy
Geez, I used to think he'd been dragged thru a hedge backwards. . . and forwards. . . and backwards again He looks absolutely minty now.
More about the bloddy fuzz . . . maybe this explains their 'good attitude', -they're expecting heaps of backup.
The police union wants politicians to give officers more powers to take a much tougher line on law-breakers, such as the power to impose curfews and take DNA samples from all people arrested, and punish lawyers who delay court cases. But the hard line might be a bit too hard for Parliament.
"Law and order is a hot topic and everyone has an opinion on it, but no one seems to ask the police officers," says Police Association president Greg O'Connor. "What we've done is ask the police officers and put together their views about what needs to happen to make New Zealand a safer place."
The list includes:
• lowering the age of criminal responsibility so 12 and 13-year-olds are within the jurisdiction of the youth court
• allowing local communities to impose curfews on youth to stop street/youth gang disorder
• DNA tests on all suspects on arrest
• lawyer sanctions, which would bar lawyers who contribute to court delays and cut their legal aid funding
• and imposing a penalty of up to ten years in prison for drivers who flee from police.
The National Party is so keen on the ideas, it is trying to take credit for them. "We think that it's pretty positive because it includes a lot of National Party policy that was released at the Police Association conference last year," says police spokesman Chester Burrows.
The Government though believes we are not a police state just yet, but the Police Association denies it is pushing draconian measures.
"How draconian is getting troublesome youths of the street at 3am?" asks Mr O'Connor. "That ain't draconian. That's common sense."
The union says although it is election year, it is not joining the political debate, but it does want our politicians to take note of the view from the front line.
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Joined: Sep 24, 2005 Posts: 504 Location: new zealand
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:54 am
oh dear, me been naughty again .................................. note to self 'do not rise to bait'.
I would like to say though and I think EVERYONE should realise this, that prohibition and cannabis prohibition in particular would have and does affect and change the character and makeup of our police force.
If you are excluding cannabis users from joining the force then you have changed its makeup and composition ....................... if you are getting the hypocitical cannabis smokers joining the force ( I'll smoke but I'll bust other smokers ) you have changed the composition of the police force ( and much for the worst).
If you attract recruits who like to drink booze ( private police bars anyone ) but these creeps think its ok to bust non-criminal cannabis users you are shapeing the culture and makeup of your organisation <a href=http://www.nzherald.co.nz/location/story.cfm?l_id=285&ObjectID=10338867>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/location/story.cfm?l_id=285&ObjectID=10338867</a> .
In the link I put up we see how the police officers in rotorua conducted themselves in the `1980's ................. now I would like to say that anyone who thinks rotorua was a 'one of' rouge station is a dreamer ..................... this is how the police were EVERYWHERE in the 1980's ....................... a pack of piss head animals who enjoyed the odd spot rape, free sex with prostitutes ( it was illegal so police got the services free in return for not busting them ), getting shit faced drunk and busting "duggies" ..................... because y'know druggies are bad.......
I would also like to say NOTHING HAS CHANGED .
Sure we've had an inquirey and Rikards got the boot ( and a big fat cheque ) .................. but nothing at all has changed apart from the fact that the police standing in our communitys has fallen a lot ................
I really dont care what the police may think about me ................. because I think they are dirt.
I'll be polite and pretend respect around them ...................... and I advise other to do the same when in contact with them.
It may save me or you from getting busted.
Last edited by daddyO on Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:38 pm, edited 5 times in total
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