If you opened a Coffee shop what would it be like?

Someone · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:14 am

Im inspired to start this topic by another thread and also as it is a dream for me. If you dream it you can do it.

So far the best I can come up with is a mail order setup (and this is the best part) I get to live in Holland and I take mail orders via a website. Then a business partner here ships the order via courier from different industrial addresses (borrowed of course, perhaps on the weekends)

Can anyone see a flaw in this idea? If you want to give it a try let me know how it goes.

Lochaber · Enthusiast Joined: Feb 19, 2008 Posts: 67 Location: SINZ

I'd take my cue from anther failed experiment in Prohibition, namely the American experience of the early 20th century, and create a 'speakeasy'.

Open the coffee shop in New Zealand. The front door is heavy and always locked, and entry is only possible by knocking and giving a password.

Inside you sell all manner of weed just like a regular coffee shop in a free country.

hometoad · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:29 am

Someone · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:53 pm

Or what about on a pirate ship parked in international waters (is it 11 miles out?) like Radio Hauraki. Those guys didnt wait till it was legal to have an independant radio staion in NZ. They just went and did it.

I bet you'd get all the boaties stopping by and if you could get fullers to do a ferry youd be raking it in.

Baccy · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:21 pm

i hope you guys are joking lol but somehow i think your not! a boat on international waters? lol fuck thats crazy shit

Dorga · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:29 pm

Tony · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:53 pm

There is one among us who has considerable knowledge of boats, and floating casinos and the like.. I would expect if it was viable with his enthusiasm it would have been done by know ..
aye K..

tony

paula · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:14 pm

I started cracking up reading though this thread

The cup is held around on the harbour, but its hardly out of jurisdiction.
Any ferries sailing out to pirate dreamland outside the legal limit would get done for importing when returning to port wouldn't they ?

steveoh · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:26 pm

Someone · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:16 am

I agree Stevoh we can do that too. Decriminalization would make it much easier to have a great coffee shop but Im sick of waiting. Im not getting any younger.

The blacks in America didnt wait till it was legal to sit at the front of the bus, the homosexuals didnt wait for governments to let them love who they wanted.

Im looking for other options.

Lochaber · Enthusiast Joined: Feb 19, 2008 Posts: 67 Location: SINZ

Shit, start a coffee shop anyway, when the police come make sure you have a lot of people with cameras just on the off chance there's some trouble.

I believe the coffee shop thing started with referrals only, i.e. you have to know someone who knows a regular in order to be allowed in. After a while this circle expands. If you can get a couple of hundred people doing it, after a while it becomes de facto legal (in layman's terms, the cops can't be fucked with the hassle).

I know people who have organised marijuana tours on boats, just not in New Zealand. Even if you do it within national waters, biffing the weed overboard when the police comes is easily done.

...Or just vote ALCP.

- Vince.

steveoh · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:36 am

point taken someone.

If we had god-forbid decriminalisation we can still be stopped, searched and detained by police, then sent on our way with a 150 dollar fine.

All that regime does is lifts the strain on our courts is all.

Imagine sitting in your local "coffee shop" tokin up with friends some one yells "RAID as a smoke/flash grenade goes off, disorientated your face is pushed into the carpet, knee slammed into your back, arms ripped behind you and a tight nylon tie pulled tight around your wrists. With some bully whispering into your ear "GET IN THE BACK OF THE FUCKEN BUS". Then go to court charged with possession of cannabis =fine. plus being found in an unlawful place and being part of an illegal assembly.

You say you are sick of waiting. I'm 48 I've been smoking since being a teen, I'm sick of waiting that's why I'm standing as a candidate for ALCP/

We have less than 4 months before the election, everyone who's "sick of waiting" should contact ALCP (address @ bottom of post) and say those magic words "WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP? If you can convince all your friends to vote and to get them to do the same to their friends, the wait wont be that long.
I think because there is only a 4% chance of getting busted, that most smokers don't bother doing any thing about reform. But hey an election only comes around once every three years. A way to speak out without fear of recrimination as no one sees how you vote (it's the safe way)

Decriminalisation is NOT a step forward, but a step sideways. NOT the way we want to go.

Steven
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Someone · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:30 am

Thanks for the lecture but your coffee shop doesnt sound very nice.
With the new drug driving laws coming in and the length of time cannabis stays in the system (plus the flawed tests that produced false positives in Victoria when it was brought in but thats another matter) the chance of getting caught will skyrocket. How many lives will be ruined? I look forward to watching society crumble.

And for those who think Im exaggerating try and get a goverment job with a drug conviction.

paula · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:51 pm

I know you're not exaggerating about the job situation, it applies to lots of non-governmental work as well, dammit.

Also somewhat share your sentiment re "watching society crumble" but am certainly not looking forward to more of it.

People just don't seem particularly resilient any more (sniff, nostalgia), there seems to be so much reacting accompanied by so little thought. Perhaps its a result of fewer people these days being prepared to 'call a spade a spade' not some bloddy large digging implement . . .

BudBeard · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:30 pm

ok someone i'll have a go if nooneesle will.

Cafe upstairs with prime metropolitan location, polished wooden floors, nice bartop with glass display case full of a wide variety of top quality marijuana.
Cafe setting with some tables on the sidewalk, also serving refesments and cafe style food

down stairs in basement, nightclub style, darkened room, lowd music, couches and seating booths...

Out the back "weedgarden" outdoor smoking area..

waitresses, bring marijuana and other assortments to guests on a silver platter... (see picture)

Vapourizers avaliable on request...

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