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Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3278 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:22 am
Hi Rowan, yes we get all your points, good to see you thinking about CLR again, and keep posting sensible shite, you and MNG will have to agree to disagree and get on with it.
He works fulltime job, not a student, is an honest-to-god medpot user so understandable may have less regard for hard out recreational users. So be it. Me, I have much thicker skin, and don't think I deleted your posts. Or maybe one or two particularly obnoxious ones, but I don't recall.
So lets all keep the cool, because the sometimes rather unconstructive tit-for-tat wears many other readers out mate.
Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 3278 Location: Christchurch, NZ
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:02 pm
I reckon. There are so many other things to do beside stand out in public with a sign and a joint, if you want to try to make a difference. I'm thinking I need assistants
Not that I'm knocking doing relatively pleasant stuff like public smoking.
Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Posts: 676 Location: zealandia
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:36 pm
Dorga is very much like Stewie Griffin, opens his mouth and expects to be fed, preferably on his back door step with out having to shift his arse.
I offered to travel as far north as Taupo to give him for free some surplus clones so he could grow his own.
Seems that this was too far away and too much effort for someone who expects what they want to be delivered to their back door.
Perhaps Dorga should get a comfortable cushion to sit his arse on at the back door whlie he whinges about having no smoke while not being prepared to shift his arse and make an effort.
Incapable of travelling to Taupo to collect free clones so that he may grow his own, but whinges about having no smoke, what a tosser.
Firstly, just for anyone who might remember me as an underage, I'm now 18, and have been for some time.
To me it seems not so much that people are saying "You're underage, therefore you suck. Get the hell out of my sight."
It seems more like "We have to make this place look the very best it can to the doctors and political advisers who read the forums, so if you're not 18, could you please not post here? It's for the greater good, guys."
Having kids who aren't legal to drink yet, talking here about how stoned they got at school the other day, does very little to help anyone who wants CLR. Quite the opposite in fact. Yes, I posted here as an underage, in the busted section, after the 18+ rule was instated. I was allowed to, given that I kept my posts to legal subjects, and tried to contribute useful things.
Coming here and saying "MNG treated me badly because I'm not 18, how unfair. What a hypocritical dick, let's all show him what a dick he is by arguing about it," and getting into petty squabbles, is actually completely pointless. It'll do more harm than good in the long run. That means your chances at legal recreational weed diminish greatly, every time someone important (at least in a political context) sees us acting like a bunch of 15 year old stoners.
MNG's job is to make the NORML community look presentable to the powers that be, so that when CLR's time comes, whoever is calling the shots has as few reasons as possible to shoot it down. It's far from the top of his priority list to coddle you and make you feel accepted.
I imagine it's the least of his concerns that a 17 year old recreational weed smoker doesn't agree with the policies put in place to protect his best shot at legal medpot.
Joined: Feb 19, 2004 Posts: 1347 Location: Nelson area
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:40 am
steveoh wrote:
Feel free to post But please do not use this site to hook-up.
Feel free to learn about cannabis and the lies your elders have told you about one of the most fantastic, versatile plant on this ball we live on.
Consensus says that its not until you reach 18 has your brain (frontal lobe) finished its major development. Cannabis WILL slow that process down (And in to-days environment one needs no hindrance in their development)
Remember if you do get into a position where you try cannabis (And remember we do NOT advocate people under 18 using cannabis) If you do experience some adverse effect and you feel uncomfortable, realise that feeling will go away within a couple of hours.
Do not have any more. Because a small percent of cannabis users will experience adverse effects and it is important for these individuals to realise that maybe cannabis is not for them.
Also it is imperative NEVER to mix tobacco with cannabis, as tobacco kills 4500 New Zealanders each year, as well as being highly addictive. Smoking is a form of slavery. So don't mix your drugs.
NEVER get behind the wheel of a vehicle, or into a car when the driver has been mixing cannabis with alcohol, this combination (especially alcohol) this mixture is deadly, your response time becomes 'shit' and the odds are you'll end up seeing the death of a friend or yourself
Steven
_________________ Regulation will set cannabis free
Joined: Jan 13, 2008 Posts: 125 Location: Over the Rainbow - Way up high
U18 Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:13 pm
bubblebobble wrote:
Firstly, just for anyone who might remember me as an underage, I'm now 18, and have been for some time.
To me it seems not so much that people are saying "You're underage, therefore you suck. Get the hell out of my sight."
It seems more like "We have to make this place look the very best it can to the doctors and political advisers who read the forums, so if you're not 18, could you please not post here? It's for the greater good, guys."
Having kids who aren't legal to drink yet, talking here about how stoned they got at school the other day, does very little to help anyone who wants CLR. Quite the opposite in fact. Yes, I posted here as an underage, in the busted section, after the 18+ rule was instated. I was allowed to, given that I kept my posts to legal subjects, and tried to contribute useful things.
Coming here and saying "MNG treated me badly because I'm not 18, how unfair. What a hypocritical dick, let's all show him what a dick he is by arguing about it," and getting into petty squabbles, is actually completely pointless. It'll do more harm than good in the long run. That means your chances at legal recreational weed diminish greatly, every time someone important (at least in a political context) sees us acting like a bunch of 15 year old stoners.
MNG's job is to make the NORML community look presentable to the powers that be, so that when CLR's time comes, whoever is calling the shots has as few reasons as possible to shoot it down. It's far from the top of his priority list to coddle you and make you feel accepted.
I imagine it's the least of his concerns that a 17 year old recreational weed smoker doesn't agree with the policies put in place to protect his best shot at legal medpot.
spot on. ur on to it mate. _________________ When the going gets weird,
The weird turn pro.
under 18 - lowest priority
people with a brain - medium priority
activists - high priority
medical users - top priority _________________ A pain free day the marijuana way.
Joined: Feb 09, 2004 Posts: 7 Location: newzealand
cannabis and R18 Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:26 am
i think as an AOD drug youth worker, we all know that cannabis, alcohol and tobacco are used frequently by those aged under 18. experimenting in part of growing up, People have sex before 16 too. I think the point is, that the R18 is very sensible and provides a safe way to conduct a forum which discusses an illegal activity.
I also think that to move cannabis from its current ilegal status to a decriminalised or legal status we have to engage with a wider audience and make suggstions that non-smokers are comfortable with, For that reason I am in favour of the R18 message.
we all know the reality though. The media are not aware that some older people over 50 smoke pot too!
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