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The country of Israel came into existence in 1948 thanks to the US, UK and UN (aka the League of Nations).
Not even going to get into that anymore than to just say that I am happy to agree to disagree on the whole subject.
potshots wrote:
However, maybe the fact that most of our news and entertainment comes from the US and UK might colour how we perceive the world in general.
So true, but its not only US & UK, media in all parts of the world should be included.
Media, media is evil.. All outlets, all sources, they say what ever will get them ratings, and viewers no matter what it is about.
I am sure if somehow applied properly, that could be used to the advantage of NORML and help produce a good end result. Media is a hugely powerful entity which is why governments, politicians and giant corporations use it to the advantage of the end goal they seek.
Further information: History of ancient Israel and Judah
The Land of Israel, known in Hebrew as Eretz Yisrael, has been sacred to the Jewish people since the time of the biblical patriarchs: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Bible has placed this period in the early 2nd millennium BCE.[23] According to the Torah, the Land of Israel was promised to the Jews as their homeland,[24][25] and the sites holiest to Judaism are located there. Around the 11th century BCE, the first of a series of Jewish kingdoms and states established rule over the region; these Jewish kingdoms and states ruled intermittently for the following one thousand years.[26]
Between the time of the Jewish kingdoms and the 7th-century Muslim conquests, the Land of Israel fell under Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Sassanian, and Byzantine rule.[27] Jewish presence in the region dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 CE and the resultant large-scale expulsion of Jews. Nevertheless, a continuous Jewish presence in Palestine was maintained, although the main Jewish population shifted from the Judea region to the Galilee;[28] the Talmud, one of Judaism's most important religious texts, was composed in Israel during this period.[29] The Land of Israel was captured from the Byzantine Empire around 636 CE during the initial Muslim conquests. Control of the region transferred between the Umayyads,[30] Abbasids,[31] and Crusaders over the next six centuries, before falling in the hands of the Mamluk Sultanate, in 1260. In 1516, the Land of Israel became a part of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled the region until the 20th century.[32][/i]
Joined: Aug 20, 2006 Posts: 958 Location: h=6.626x10‾34 Mood: sisyphustic
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:04 pm
OK.. apparently this is how it goes.. back then God promised them the land..
..but now, God speaks through George Bush...
..so it could be said that this God fella has a bit of a credibility problem. _________________ IF 25 YEARS OF SMOKING DOPE HAS ADDLED MY BRAIN, I MUST HAVE BEEN AN INTELLECTUAL GIANT IN MY YOUTH ~Tim Shadbolt
I can easily do something about someone attacking another person in front of me, that is within my reality. I have no power to do something that is controlled by a government, and if I did, who is to say I would? I have no desire to be political.
I have no desire to be political either, but unfortunately living amongst other humans necessitates it. Apathy is not politically neutral, it directly serves the interests of those who want government left up to our 'betters' (i.e. large corporations and the very wealthy).
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OK.. apparently this is how it goes.. back then God promised them the land..
..but now, God speaks through George Bush...
..so it could be said that this God fella has a bit of a credibility problem.
haha.. Indeed.. and a bit of explaining to do, like why he'd allow so much killing to occur between groups that all claim to be following his directions.
Joined: May 11, 2006 Posts: 340 Location: Auckland
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:43 pm
Psilosopher wrote:
I have no desire to be political either, but unfortunately living amongst other humans necessitates it.
You are correct, it does, and in history, can you to show me any governments who's people were happy with them? Even one will do.
Any? No?
Politics are BS, it is just a way to control people, same with tax, same with law, it is all about control, and no one is ever happy with it.
I just know when I can not change something, and I accept it. If you feel the need to try, that is great for you! I prefer to stick to something more simple, something which is a bit closer to home for me, legilization of canabis. =)
Psilosopher wrote:
Apathy is not politically neutral, it directly serves the interests of those who want government left up to our 'betters' (i.e. large corporations and the very wealthy).
I do not recall saying I was apathitic, I did not say if I was for, aginst, or neutral. In fact, if you go back and read my original post, you may see I was simply saying we will not know the truth.
Thats all really.. so again.... Life goes on, and fire one up!
I can easily do something about someone attacking another person in front of me, that is within my reality. I have no power to do something that is controlled by a government, and if I did, who is to say I would? I have no desire to be political.
I have no desire to be political either, but unfortunately living amongst other humans necessitates it. Apathy is not politically neutral, it directly serves the interests of those who want government left up to our 'betters' (i.e. large corporations and the very wealthy).
Quote:
OK.. apparently this is how it goes.. back then God promised them the land..
..but now, God speaks through George Bush...
..so it could be said that this God fella has a bit of a credibility problem.
haha.. Indeed.. and a bit of explaining to do, like why he'd allow so much killing to occur between groups that all claim to be following his directions.
I think you will find most don't want to be political, we are forced to.
In a true democracy politicians are supposed to do the bidding of the people, here in NZ and most of the western world however we have half democracies whereby the people vote in politicians who then do the bidding of corporations not the people.
If the world were truly democratic cannabis wouldn't have been illegal in the first place.
Who here voted for the party of their choice to find out the policies they wanted to introduce were introduced right before an election and the policies that were introduced straight away never got mentioned at electioneering time?
Bet no one voted for the party who wanted the anti smacking bill or the others that wanted the terrorism suppression act.... _________________ A pain free day the marijuana way.
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