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One of the reasons for prohibiting grow your own is to avoid it being exposed to others getting hold of it.. Family friends or rip offs especially by kids ..
I have discussed secure grow cabinets and discrete grow areas and all the other options .but usually falls on deaf ears.
Frankly I do not care if I personally did not get a licence to cultivate as long as I had a reliable affordable and effective source .. be it commercially grown.
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Now this would be a great industry for our prisons to start ..... they have in most case plenty of spare land , and some of the best growers in the country as guests ...Hmmmm
Wonder if we should start working on the Minister of corrections .. How to make the prisons a profitable , commercial enterprise..
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:48 am
That sounds like something out of "1984" or "Animal Farm".
Incarcerate people for growing a plant, then force them to grow the same plant to pay for their incarceration while lining the pockets of their incarcerators.
The State would love it. Make them the biggest controlling gang again. Pure genius, pure evil genius. But if you think the raw herb would find its way to you or I rather than some gov-corp to make some useless product out of, sorry to burst the bubble.
Meanwhile, I've been growing my own personal stash for nearly a decade. No-one else has gotten their thieving hands on it. I'm not that stupid.
Growing a secure stash is just like being able to self administer a practically harmless herb that gives movement to stiff hips and smiles to stiff lips, it isn't rocket science. _________________ I did try it when I was a university student in the 1970s -Peter Dunne
If one of the reasons is security, then why not allow the police to supply cannabis to medical users who hold a license.
or,
as with a firearms license, if you own guns you have to keep them in a locked cupboard, can the same methodology be applied to cannabis growing? _________________ A pain free day the marijuana way.
Meanwhile people are allowed to brew their own beer! I don't see anyone clamouring over security in this area.
It should be easy enough to have a designated grow room that can be locked (or a shed, or cupboard).
Until the firsts waves of paranoia pass and the great mislead find cannabis is not the going to destroy the world ,security is going to be an issue with the law makers.
We need to be focusing on offering them sound and practical solutions , lets help overcome the objections..
With the now delayed MOD amendment bill regards medical use the question of grow situations is particularly relevant both from a self grow set up but also with luck licenced growers , those unable to grow their own can contract to.
The less complicated the more economic it will be to produce and more growers.
And frankly i do not care if i have to go to the local cop shop once a week to pick up supplies as long as its reliable , good quality porduct at an affordable price .But would much rather get it from an experienced and quality assured local grower if they were to exist and be able to trial varieties and such like.
I personally would support a secure grower co-op as they operate in US and Canadia .
Meanwhile people are allowed to brew their own beer! I don't see anyone clamouring over security in this area.
It should be easy enough to have a designated grow room that can be locked (or a shed, or cupboard).
Can also brew your own spirits.
A great source of underage alcohol.
Why is it legal? Not only tax revenue but also our politicians like to indulge in the stuff at the local after work, or in restuarants. It is most politicians drug of choice.
It's in-ground into our system and culture, prohibiting it would be near impossible.
Cannabis has been with mankind for thousands of years, it is resonably readily available in most of New Zealand thanks to a prohibition model that doesn't work. A certain percentage of NZ use it, always have done, that isn't going to change. So why is it illegal? Becuase the Government isn't getting a cut via taxes.
If the government want to get a cut, they should be growing it for us _________________ A pain free day the marijuana way.
A log jam of MPs bills means a wide number of controversial issues such as liquor advertising, cannabis use, and coastal ownership rights are unlikely to be voted on before Parliament dissolves for the election.
The backlog of bills is also causing wider problems for the Greens preventing them getting a new MP into Parliament.
Every second Wednesday Parliament deals with legislation put up by MPs dealing with their issues or those of local government and private interests.
In recent years members' night has been the focus of intense political interest dealing with issues such as prostitution and child discipline.
Now an unusual set of circumstances has created a backlog of bills which means few will get debated let alone have a chance to pass into law or be rejected by MPs before the election.
Currently there are six private and local bills and 11 members' bills on the Order Paper with still more before select committees.
One of those local bills, the Waitakere Ranges Heritage Area Bill, has consumed most of the time set aside for members bills so far this year and is still yet to go through its final two hour debate before being passed into law.
Once this is dealt with members' night will have to deal with bills such as the Melanesian Trusts (Income Tax Exemption) Amendment Bill and the Christchurch City Council (Lancaster Park) Land Vesting Bill, which will receive little debate.
However, the local bill proposing a ban on gang patches is likely to take up its full debate time.
Since this business takes precedence over members' bills the time left for them is rapidly eroding.
There are probably just eight or ten members nights left before the election which means only the Corrections (Mothers with Babies) Amendment Bill -- which allows mothers to serve jail time with young babies -- is likely to make any significant progress.
Amongst those that are not expected to to see the light of day before the next election are bills proposing national standards of literacy and numeracy and the Misuse of Drugs (Medicinal Cannabis) Amendment Bill.
Others unlikely to get to a vote include Tariana Turia's Foreshore and Seabed Act (Repeal) Bill and another proposing DNA testing in contested paternity cases.
The log jam also creates problems for the Greens.
They have been planning for Nandor Tanczos to stand aside for co-leader Russel Norman before the next election, but Mr Tanczos wants to make progress on his bill proposing ways to reduce waste going to rubbish dumps.
It is still in select committee and Dr Norman will have a long wait to enter Parliament if he waits for the bill to pass into law.
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That sounds like something out of "1984" or "Animal Farm".
Meanwhile, I've been growing my own personal stash for nearly a decade. No-one else has gotten their thieving hands on it. I'm not that stupid.
