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Joined: Feb 23, 2003 Posts: 283 Location: Pt Chev, Auckland
What do you think of the Inquiry report? Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:21 pm
What do you think of the Inquiry report? Please discuss it here by posting a reply.
Personally I think its a load of prohibitionist shite. I can't see any redeeming features at all, at least not in the recommendations. There is no recommendation that cannabis should be medicalised, only that the government "pursue the possibility of supporting the prescription of clinically tested cannabis products for medicinal purposes." Pursue the possibility? Pursue the possibility? Eh? What? Steve Chadwick you have sold us out.
One of the things that annoys me the most is this recommendation:
Quote:
"that it note our concern that most young people who use cannabis do so in an environment that is not conducive to well-informed decision-making, and ensure that useful information is readily available."
What a load of crap. When young people decide to use cannabis they are making a well-informed decision. They are making the decision based on the fact that cannabis is many many times safer than the legal drugs used by the old fogeys that wrote this report.
Joined: Aug 07, 2003 Posts: 18 Location: New Zealand
A Sad case mockery of what we put in. Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:35 pm
Personally i thought it was a waste of paper all this writing and time yet they delay it so much only to say they will consider medical cannabis and medical cannabis only, im ranting and raving over it. but i have to admit, medical marijuana is a start, but again its only a start. Nothing was mentioned about recommending Coffeeshops - the only way to prevent cannabis users from becoming exposed to the ever growing out-of-control P epidemic.
consider the following options i have proposed and will fwd to NORML.
1 - mass sit/smoke ins, i propose a smoke/in lengthy occupation of public parks in the same way as Motua Gardens was in 1995.
2 - a Cape Reinga-Wellington march, in the exact fashion as Dame Whina Cooper did in 1975.
3 - Uprisings in court, dont be a dumb lamb, although ROARING LION is a show of martyrdom the STUBBON MULE approach will work just as effective and if its a simple cannabis offence, the most your likely to get is a $150-$200 maximum fine. If your planning on using the S/M approach then appeal the verdict, its a show of major defiance to a corrupt and unjust law yet you dont have to spend a few days getting gang-raped in the gulags.
[http://www.lucifer-sam.com][/url] _________________ We have maintained a silence closely resembling stupidity.
What a load of crap, is that the best that committee could come up with.
looks like i,m still going to be a cirminal in the eyes of the law for growing and smoking a little weed.
And that to me seems absolute bullshite.
Its time we as a nation pulled our heads out and stopped prosecutiing those who simply enjoys some of natures green.
Enough of the double standard political bullshit that we see all around us and FREE THE WEED!!
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 17 Location: West cost, North Island, Aotearoa
I read the report Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:24 am
Hey pot fans! Yup, thanks to the norml post last friday I have spent the weekend digesting and discussing the report with my partner.... ova a few phats ones...THANKS NORML for the INFO!
Overall, wikked facts and the report does favour legalisation. The only thing they didn't do was 'agree' on is the legal status! THAT IS SHIT PEOPLE! They were suppose to and didn't! It says it in the header, the title of the report! ".....and the most appropriate legal status."
I also note the severe lack of submissions. Lets face it, I know heaps of people who toke up. WHAT HAPPENED? In saying that, I only did a postcard myself, so I'm not much better
I realised, we need to stand up for this now more than ever! We have a good report lets push it home. We have to stand up and say, YES - LEGALISE IT!
They show all the facts and info showing what the people want -> LEGALISE IT! and then copped it out to another committee! LETS SEE HOW MUCH LONGER WE CAN STRING OUT OUR TAXPAYER! While you and your mates are still put in jail for this?
Does anyone know who is on this NEXT committee?
How can we organise smoke ins? Bring a plant in, sit ins? I propose someone with some more legal mumbo jumbo advise us of our rights and the best way we can do these things without too much heat on us all. I'm for it! HOW ABOUT YOU? It's my country, my life, my freedom!
Joined: Feb 23, 2003 Posts: 283 Location: Pt Chev, Auckland
Re: I read the report Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:22 am
circusfreak wrote:
Hey pot fans! Yup, thanks to the norml post last friday I have spent the weekend digesting and discussing the report with my partner.... ova a few phats ones...THANKS NORML for the INFO!
Thanks, glad to be of service. You're right the report was a cop-out.
circusfreak wrote:
Does anyone know who is on this NEXT committee?
Well of course they haven't confirmed that the Justice and Electoral Committee will follow the Inquiry recommendations and launch a study yet. But if they do, then the members are: Tim Barnett (Chairperson), Russell Fairbrother, Stephen Franks (Deputy Chairperson), Darren Hughes, Dail Jones, Lynne Pillay, Mita Ririnui, Murray Smith, Nandor Tanczos, Lindsay Tisch and Richard Worth, which is a pretty hopeful line-up.
circusfreak wrote:
How can we organise smoke ins? Bring a plant in, sit ins? I propose someone with some more legal mumbo jumbo advise us of our rights and the best way we can do these things without too much heat on us all.
We just need to gather enough people so that they can't arrest us all. If we're going to go for police stations, then I guess it would be best to go to small police stations or go on the weekend when there's not so many cops around.
Joined: Aug 01, 2003 Posts: 126 Location: australia
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:28 pm
I was really quite saddened by the select committees report.....it took me approx 3 hours to read.....& after I had finished it......the recommendations made by them were so nondescript....that I was appalled........ I am sure the time, energy & money associated with this committee would have been quite staggering.....BUT FOR WHAT????...........
It seems to be such a huge misleading & misrepresentation of what they were set up for.....to research & find FACTS, hear submissions about cannabis sativa.....to recommend other ways of dealing with a system that is clearly NOT working for ANYONE.........prohibition is clearly destroying & damaging peoples lives....in many inhumane & heartless ways.....far more than using this plant ever would accomplish.....
In the report there was much duck shoving, speculation, conjecture, theorizing, surmising....seemingly no effort to research for FACTS......especially in reference to medical cannabis....which is of special interest for me.....there was NO PRO STANCE at all.........what a great dissappointment, I really feel for the people who suffer illnesses, where their only relief, from the symptoms of some illnesses & the sometimes horrific side effects from prescribed drugs.....is a tote.....
There again.....another catch 22 situation at the moment.......they make recommendations for medical research.....but because it is illegal......no such research is able to commence or get off the ground.......until legislation is changed or until it is santioned by govt...........beauracratic, political, duck shoving BS....
I feel if some of these members were really interested in helping & alleviating pain & suffering from people.............they wouldnt need to look very far for evidence on what an amazing healing plant this really is......the net is a world wide encyclopedia........there has already been much documented research done......with very promising results.........a number of scientific & medical research has been done in the past in the USA.......& at this very moment research for MS, Aids & pain sufferers is being done by CW pharmaceuticals in England......with very positive results....
The thing that really gets me...is that proof is there....but sadly it seems alot of these people on committees like this have already made their minds up & are not at all open to seeing common sense & facts that conflict with their own preconceived views......& this is a very big problem concerning recommendations for change....any change.....
It really was a great dissappointment & so very sad & frustrating to finally read the long awaited report.....
I think the multinational companies are becoming too strong in this war...for words & emails & letters.....
It maybe time for peaceful protests & action.....as others have suggested.....
The Dunedin smoke/in was a brilliant idea....this needs to ripple across the country in my opinion....& maybe across the world......let NZ be the first....like they were for womens votes....NORML co-ordinators, members......what do you say.....it really is a worthwhile thought to pursue.....
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all this writing and time yet they delay it so much only to say they will consider medical cannabis and medical cannabis only, im ranting and raving over it. 
but i have to admit, medical marijuana is a start, but again its only a start. Nothing was mentioned about recommending Coffeeshops - the only way to prevent cannabis users from becoming exposed to the ever growing out-of-control P epidemic.
looks like i,m still going to be a cirminal in the eyes of the law for growing and smoking a little weed.
